tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post7531527851851022181..comments2024-03-24T12:47:49.253-04:00Comments on Dou-la-la: Weekend Movie: The mixed bag that is the Duggars' home birthAnnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01019907275666753543noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-15799431503532361772010-02-18T19:46:56.494-05:002010-02-18T19:46:56.494-05:00I think you're right, Heather and others who a...I think you're right, Heather and others who agree that it was just poor editing. Jill's scenario seems very likely.<br /><br />I'll go ahead and chalk this up as a positive, for the overall effect, though I worry just a little about some viewers getting the wrong idea about doulas, which could lead to other misunderstandings.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01019907275666753543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-20478330898544701692010-02-18T18:00:22.948-05:002010-02-18T18:00:22.948-05:00When I first read about the Anna and Josh's da...When I first read about the Anna and Josh's daughter being born, it was in a press release, and it stated that they gave birth at home with a midwife. I think TLC did poor editing, as I too was very confused watching the episode and knowing that a midwife had been there, but not hearing it mentioned.Heathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-43667287254505762512010-02-17T19:10:05.266-05:002010-02-17T19:10:05.266-05:00Okay, after thinking about it, here is what I thin...Okay, after thinking about it, here is what I think might have happened. Josh and Anna were clearly planning a natural birth. They had a doctor they liked, and they hired a doula, who was probably also a midwife (my midwife does doula work as well). Along the way, they probably learned that it might be hard to achieve a natural birth in the hospital. They probably learned about homebirth via their doula or other resources, but since they liked their doctor, they still wanted him at the birth and decided hospital birth would be okay. But when he was out of town, another doctor that they might have found out is NOT natural birth friendly would have been the one delivering them, so they asked their doula if she could be their midwife and just do a homebirth so they could get the natural birth they wanted. I think everyone probably just got their terms confused and continuing calling her their doula, since that was what they originally hired her for.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475112158639748154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-29474808824732381762010-02-16T13:53:18.793-05:002010-02-16T13:53:18.793-05:00I also dont want to get started on the Duggars the...I also dont want to get started on the Duggars themselves-but this video actually brought me to tears. A lovely birth. I was trained as a nurse-midwife and am more than a little jealous about the faith this couple had in the birth process. Lovely.Meagan M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18275339378106337774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-14052633743647566282010-02-15T16:18:41.820-05:002010-02-15T16:18:41.820-05:00Heh, I feel the same way about the Duggars; I don&...Heh, I feel the same way about the Duggars; I don't have trouble with large families at all, but I do frequently wonder what kinds of dreams a girl could have in that atmosphere if she didn't want to get married, have babies, (or as many) and wanted a career. You can't call it abusive to raise girls to see themselves only in such a narrow way, but it makes me cringe all the same.<br /><br />Of course, I spend a lot of time over at No Longer Quivering, so that has definitely shaped my perspective!<br /><br />http://nolongerquivering.com/emjaybeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-50759272056578480622010-02-14T23:44:16.898-05:002010-02-14T23:44:16.898-05:00I think she was a trained midwife. Don't forge...I think she was a trained midwife. Don't forget about the oxygen tank. I don't know why they couldn't just come out and say it though.<br /><br />Interested to see your post on free birthing.Darcelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08124410098799138873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-9304976429329245052010-02-14T22:54:11.203-05:002010-02-14T22:54:11.203-05:00In Arkansas you have certified midwives which are ...In Arkansas you have certified midwives which are Masters level nurses with midwife training and certification. Then you have lay midwives who have about 75 hours of training and have attended at least 30 women antepartum, through labor and delivery and postpartum. They are also certified but are working under the license of a physician or midwife. The "doula" who attended Anna was the same lady who taught the Bradley classes. I don't know but wouldn't be surprised to find she is also a certified lay midwife.Millie at homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10735589699513060490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-58817168044156946062010-02-14T21:45:39.555-05:002010-02-14T21:45:39.555-05:00I am right there with you about the Duggars. I hav...I am right there with you about the Duggars. I have such mixed views... I do think that they used the wrong word though. No doula carries that kind of stuff with her, and I know a lot of doula's!<br /><br />Maybe there is some controversy about the legality of midwife assisted home births?Daniellehttp://momotics.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-73903217665337790922010-02-14T21:06:47.240-05:002010-02-14T21:06:47.240-05:00I'm interested in hearing what you have to say...I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about unassisted births! I have a strong opinion on that one and look forward to seeing what you have to write on it!Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12652107321069740503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-64725178588986604482010-02-14T20:54:00.492-05:002010-02-14T20:54:00.492-05:00I think it was just a first time father saying the...I think it was just a first time father saying the wrong word, KWIM? She had all the equipment, so it seems like she may be a midwife and doula. Maybe they hired her as the doula, and when the unfamiliar Dr. situation came up they were more comfortable with someone they knew, and luckily they were a midwife. I like that Jim Bob didn't freak out like so many people's families would. Granted he's got a lot of birth experience, but that was nice to see. LOL at "Josh-Baby's Daddy"!Reneenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-88826188310833390542010-02-14T20:52:14.582-05:002010-02-14T20:52:14.582-05:00Hmmm. All those supplies? She has to be a midwife,...Hmmm. All those supplies? She has to be a midwife, too. It is a real shame that TLC didn't clarify. <br /><br />What a champ mama was, though. And as a Bradley teacher, my heart swelled with pride at what a good coach dad was:-)roadrunner201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06108866769358292786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-51002212558676920482010-02-14T19:57:31.893-05:002010-02-14T19:57:31.893-05:00There's that whole part about the doctor being...There's that whole part about the doctor being out of town . . . and Jim Bob asks if they're at the hospital yet . . . so it sounds like the idea of an unfamiliar doctor freaked 'em out enough to keep them home. Interesting.Hilaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781058037409966491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-88075681176493584722010-02-14T19:49:06.764-05:002010-02-14T19:49:06.764-05:00Yes, I agree. That is very poor journalism, for la...Yes, I agree. That is very poor journalism, for lack of a better word. TLC takes a very healthy birth scenario and turns it into something viewers might then take seriously as truth, only to be told by a professional somewhere along the line that that's not safe or responsible and that doulas don't do that. Then the viewer ends up doubting herself and anything she may future hear from the natural birthing community. Thanks TLC for the shoddy work! As usual. Geez. I used to love TLC shows. Now they pretty much all make me sick.Melodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05859568015767404451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741036541041672560.post-21185777491008662222010-02-14T19:43:22.704-05:002010-02-14T19:43:22.704-05:00This was really great. It's nice seeing them a...This was really great. It's nice seeing them as a normal married couple and not terrified teenagers. :) I like how calm she and everyone else was during the birth.<br /><br />The doula thing is driving me nuts though. I think maybe they just didn't want to broadcast to the world that they were planning a homebirth, which is why they might have said "considering" on the moring of labor, but still? A doula who carries a scale, gloves, and instruments? That's not a doula. What's going on with that? I don't know what to think.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475112158639748154noreply@blogger.com